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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:51 am
by Madmary1
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone :D

well hello to you too. maybe learn something new here on this site? I ll try if i dont have to register
Hi there...

I hope there is much that is presented here that you find interesting and informative too. So, we are very glad you decided to post. :D

But can you tell me why you don't want to register here? I hope its not anything we did...at least I hope not. :(

Anyway, we'd sure like to know the answer to that question.

Thanks. Still, keep up the good work and let us know if we can be of any help or assistance to you!

agape,

Mary

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:14 am
by Guest
No nothing you have done. The org. likes to track people though these sites so they can chastise you.
I would like to know how your group differs from the JWs we commonly know?
You do have alot of info here to sift through.
I am a JW looking for the REAL truth, if you know what I mean.
I do not believe we are that close to the end of this system. Not even in our lifetime probably.. I know , no one knows the exact time. but it was just as bad if not worse during world war I, and II, and the Holocaust too. so we have much longer to go and a lot worse to go through

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:04 am
by Littleleslie
Dear Guest:

Hi, I want to say welcome, and I just wanted to respond to the comment you made about the fact that you want to learn the "real truth". Don't stop looking...because Jehovah is still God! and He doesen't change...even though WTBTS changes. Jehovah is the one we need to be concerned with, not WTBTS! That is only a man made organization, a corporation to be exact.

I was a JW for many years, started studying in 1976, baptized in 1979 and I love Jehovah. But, I left the KH in 2005 when learning of the NGO apostasy committed by the Governing Body. This was really really bad. It was the last straw for me, added to many other things, but I knew Jehovah God would not overlook this spiritual adultery, this is wickedness.

This is what Jehovah says about the wicked:

WICKED CANNOT REPRESENT JEHOVAH
(Psalm 50:16) 16 But to the wicked one God will have to say: “What right do you have to enumerate my regulations, And that you may bear my covenant in your mouth?

I do think JW's have 40 BASIC TRUTHS and they are God's people. But they are now in apostasy!

So yes, people wonder why it keeps getting worse and worse at the KH, it is because Jehovah has left the WTBTS and is now in the wilderness, where we are since leaving the KH.

So, everyone who really loves Jehovah God would finally realize that Jehovah left the KH and is in the wilderness. And if you're really searching, Jehovah will reveal his truth to that person. See Jeremiah 33:3

There are a lot of good scriptural articles here for you to read. The front page is full of excellent articles that will help you learn the truth, here is the link:

www.crossingeuphrates.com


You could use a name, any name you choose, when you post here. That would distinguish you from any other guest, and you would still be anonymous and not have to worry about giving away your identity.

So, welcome to Crossing Euphrates and please feel free to ask any questions you have here! :D

Agape,
Littleleslie :D

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:33 am
by Dionna [Guest]
Thanks for the links. Ilike the idea of many being able to post and read here. should give a lot of much needed truths to alot of people

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:07 pm
by Littleleslie
Yes you're right. What is needed is a place that JW's can come to discuss these important issues and not have to worry about somebody turning you in for questioning Watchtower teachings.

You're very welcome for those links. Like I said, please feel free to post any questions you have about any of these new thoughts!

Agape,
Littleleslie

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:30 pm
by Cogent Reasoning
So tell me, Dionna...how long have you been a Jehovah's witness?

Just wondering...

Cogent R.

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:17 pm
by Dionna [Guest]
25 plus yrs. the past couple I have read so much info on the net.

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:54 pm
by Madmary1
Hello Dionna, :bright

Just wondered if you have had a chance to check out our *NEW* web site yet? I'm kind of proud of it, lol. :dance2 But if you have not checked out any of those ten links on the bottom or top here on Crossing Euphrates, here is the link:

7 Indictments Of Wickedness On Jehovah's Witnesses

I would appreciate to hear what you think! :eek:

Agape,
Mary
:waycool

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:43 pm
by Guest
Mary, :)
All I can say is WOW !!! If only all JWs could see and read this. I was familar will all except the house to house work, man what a fool I have been. :cry:
Well I will forward to those I can . Maybe, just maybe ..........

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:08 pm
by Madmary1
Hi Guest, :sunny

Thank you, thank you, thank you! :yahoo

Yes, by all means pass that web site to as many JW's as possible. :idea: :bulb:

You were not a fool to follow Jehovah God, don't ever think that. :goodjob: At least you are "on the watch." But this situation is very, very similar to the Jews in the first century.

Funny, I have heard some JW's say that they don't know if they (Jehovah's witnesses) are God's People because of all this wickedness going on. But if you look at those Jews...they were wicked also, very wicked. So wicked that they committed the WORST CRIME in history...
they killed God's son, Jesus.
You cannot get any more wicked than that!

By the way, what did you think about the reasoning use on the Community Guilt page? I would appreciate your thoughts. :rose:

Again thanks!
Mary
:tanning:

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:31 pm
by Dionna [Guest]
The community guilt is right on target. Those who continue on are just as guilty once they know the truth. :cry:
I cannot judge, I was so blinded and probably still am about a lot of things.
This info could help so many, open so manys eyes, and hearts.

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:14 pm
by Madmary1
Hi Dionna,
The community guilt is right on target. Those who continue on are just as guilty once they know the truth. :cry:
Oh good...yes, I agree. We were hoping this would be helpful. Now I think you are starting to get the whole picture as to "how" Jehovah will save His people. He has a specific means as to how rescue modern day Israel. In order to see how He is going to acomplish this task, here is an article that will help. In this article there are three simple statements that you would be asked to reason upon. Take your time and reason on these three thoughts individually because they are soooooooo different from anything you were taught at the kingdom hall. Here is the link:

THREE (3) SIMPLE STATEMENTS OF BELIEF-- WHAT DO YOU THINK?

By the way, due to spammers and such, we will close this forum for posting till morning, :D when someone will be monitoring the board. :spam

But please, tomorrow post and tell me what you think about those three belief statements...I appreciate your thoughts! :rose:

Agape,
Mary
:waycool

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:46 am
by Apollyon (Revelation 9:11)
Hi Dionna :D

...Just wanted to let you know, the board is now open for visitor posting.

Thanks. :)

DB

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:04 am
by Dionna [Guest]
Im back!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:
Yes that is new info for me. The organination always told us that the the woman was Jehovahs org.
Does the Bible tell us who this person is or it is a mystery right now? :)
thanks for all the info :D :D

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:05 pm
by Littleleslie
Dionna wrote:Im back!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:
Yes that is new info for me. The organination always told us that the the woman was Jehovahs org.
Does the Bible tell us who this person is or it is a mystery right now? :)
thanks for all the info :D :D
Hi Dionna,

Yes, this was new information for all of us at the kingdom hall, including me. I've been baptized since the mid-70s and was completely floored by all of this too...maybe shocked even. :shock:

But I found that it was all presented scripturally, also logically and reasonably. So, I decided to take the 90-day course, this summer 2 years ago. And it really paid off me. You see, all of the information you seek and asked about above, is completely laid out for you in the LivingWatersForum or School Academy. That's the whole purpose of the Academy. You see, there are between 150-200 articles posted over there to help explain this big, gigantic topic. And believe me, this is a very, very big topic.

In fact, we have a saying over here...you will need scuba diving equipment over there at LWF, to go down, down and down more...very deep in the "living waters" to find Jehovah "pearls" of truth. Research and study has proved, a person really needs about 90 days to actually complete the entire bible study course over there, and fully absorb things taught there. And that's NOT counting the info you read here at Crossing Euphrates either. I'm talking about 90 days AFTER, after you leave Crossing Euphrates. You will still need more time (90-days) to study the deep info found at LivingWatersforum. There are some 25 forums over there with detail information in each and every forum.

For example, over at LivingWatersForum.com you will find a detail prospective and analysis of the future "temple" of God, drawn from the book of Ezekiel 47th chapter. I'm sure you remember that chapter. That's the one that talks about God's Temple which gave out "living, healing waters" to all the nations for the "healing of the nations." First the "waters" was ankle deep, then knee deep, then up to the hips/waist, it rises more and next one could swim in it, and then finally it become a "double torrent" so powerful that it began to flow to sustain many, many powerful "trees" on each side of the River flowing from God. -- Ezekiel 47:1-12

I am going to start a new thread on this subject especially for you. It won't cover everything on the subject, but it should get you off to a GOOD START. :D

The title for the new topic will be:

God's Future Temple & Mystery Chieftain

In this thread you will find much of the key information you requested above. But, keep in mind, I can't post all of the information thats over at LWF...because it would simply be too much for me. Remember there are scores and scores of articles over there ... all waiting for you, if you want to partake of this bountiful spiritual feast. And its all for the asking, its free as God's Word promised it would be in the last days. :)

(BTW, if you are worried about joining the academy because of privacy issues, why don't you get you a hotmail.com email address, or one at yahoo.com. I understand there are many ways now, one can remain completely anonymous on the net, and still join JW discussion boards. Please keep in mind, everyone here at LWF respects your privacy completely. So all information obtained here is always kept completely confidential. In other words, this info stays with us. And I am only talking about your email address, and only that. We need only an email address to register you at the YORWW Bible Academy. Only that, and nothing else. If you have any other questions, you can write me personally and we can talk privately on this matter about getting you quietly registered at the Academy.)

Ok, now I'm going to get to work on that special thread for you. I should have it up within the hour. :D

agape,

Leslie